dolph wrote:Most would agree that God is omnipresent including the person of the Holy Spirit. So, is it such a big leap to say He is IN us? and if He is in us then He has "entered" us.
John G Lake and Dad Hagin would agree with that.
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John G Lake and Dad Hagin would agree with that.
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." So, is it such a big leap to say He is IN us? and if He is in us then He has "entered""
I do not agree with this at all. God has not entered us or anyone else. To say and beieve this is to say God is not only in us spiritually, which is the way it is, but that He has entered us bodily, something He or any other spirit being including Satan CANNOT do! God is in us in Spirit, yes, but never bodily. He can never be bodily in every believer through out the world.
Galatians 4: 16, Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
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Dolph: I know you're sincere.
Please think though, we are not divine, and we cannot think
in divine terms.
1) Where in the scriptures is the Holy Spirit in the body?
We know where God and Jesus Christ are, but find one scripture
where the Holy Spirit in the body resides. I've never read it,
thus The Holy Spirit is as scripture says basically 'in us.'
Now, most of what God, Jesus Christ, The Holy Spirit does
for us is 'in the sprit' is is not? Thus, perahps from a divine
point of view, (supposing) scripture claims The Holy Spirit
dwells within us. He does not have to be somewhere in the
body speaking to us then, He actually and according to
scripture is in us in the spirit. In otherwords He does not
have to have a physical body to dwell within us, however He
does have a body. I think in a divine perspective we perhaps
place to much emphasas on his physical body, thus your
thinking he talks to us as opposed to actually dwelling within us.
He does dwell in all believers, especially those born again
where is is welcome. There are seven billions people on the
earth, billions in heaven, and divinity can dwell in all believers
at the same time. This would not be a human attribute, however
Revelations gives us all the attributes of divinity, one being
omnipresent. We can't do that and we do not think in divine
terms. I think if you dismissdivinity talking to us from a body,
that helps.
As I wrote in my previous post, we cannot think in divine terms, but
only in human, motal perspective.
When God as in a previous posts has all the scripture where God
HImself was on earth, He in essence did not move bodity
from heaven to earth, but 'in the sprit' he can appears whereever
He chooses to be 'in the body.' Same when we die and go to
heaven, our physical body does not move, but our spirit, at
which point God has the option of giving us a physical body
just as on earth. So, it is the 'spirt' that God can manifest Himself
in the body as He chooses. Again this is a divine attribute, explaing
in Revelations of the some thirteen attributes of Jesus Christ.
Jesus died, descended into hell, rose again on the thord day
and ascended to Heaven to set upon the right hand of God"
Jesus also appears several times to the aposples after His
cruxification. When Jesus was baptised, God spoke, The Holy
spirit descended upon Jesus as a dove. Thus it is clearn
divinity can be in the body in whatever form divinity chooses
and Gods spirit, Jesus Christ, and The HOly Spirit can be
all places at the same time. I would suggest not to think
in human terms that God talks to us from His body, as that
seems to be the thought that scripture does not ever mention.
I hope this helps Dolph. I think in contect with scripture,
you, I, all of us, need to use our imagination as scripture
applies to this matter. Now we know Elijah, Enoch were
taken to heaven alive, but read carefully scripture .
I do not believe the scripture goes into depth on this
issue wheter their bodies wents to heaven or where
there bodies went, but usually in the scriptures when
something is not vital to God to explain, it is not
important.There are many subjects people delve into
that dead ends in the bible, because if God were to
explain all this the bible would be to big as Paul states
to be contained in the whole earth.
Please think though, we are not divine, and we cannot think
in divine terms.
1) Where in the scriptures is the Holy Spirit in the body?
We know where God and Jesus Christ are, but find one scripture
where the Holy Spirit in the body resides. I've never read it,
thus The Holy Spirit is as scripture says basically 'in us.'
Now, most of what God, Jesus Christ, The Holy Spirit does
for us is 'in the sprit' is is not? Thus, perahps from a divine
point of view, (supposing) scripture claims The Holy Spirit
dwells within us. He does not have to be somewhere in the
body speaking to us then, He actually and according to
scripture is in us in the spirit. In otherwords He does not
have to have a physical body to dwell within us, however He
does have a body. I think in a divine perspective we perhaps
place to much emphasas on his physical body, thus your
thinking he talks to us as opposed to actually dwelling within us.
He does dwell in all believers, especially those born again
where is is welcome. There are seven billions people on the
earth, billions in heaven, and divinity can dwell in all believers
at the same time. This would not be a human attribute, however
Revelations gives us all the attributes of divinity, one being
omnipresent. We can't do that and we do not think in divine
terms. I think if you dismissdivinity talking to us from a body,
that helps.
As I wrote in my previous post, we cannot think in divine terms, but
only in human, motal perspective.
When God as in a previous posts has all the scripture where God
HImself was on earth, He in essence did not move bodity
from heaven to earth, but 'in the sprit' he can appears whereever
He chooses to be 'in the body.' Same when we die and go to
heaven, our physical body does not move, but our spirit, at
which point God has the option of giving us a physical body
just as on earth. So, it is the 'spirt' that God can manifest Himself
in the body as He chooses. Again this is a divine attribute, explaing
in Revelations of the some thirteen attributes of Jesus Christ.
Jesus died, descended into hell, rose again on the thord day
and ascended to Heaven to set upon the right hand of God"
Jesus also appears several times to the aposples after His
cruxification. When Jesus was baptised, God spoke, The Holy
spirit descended upon Jesus as a dove. Thus it is clearn
divinity can be in the body in whatever form divinity chooses
and Gods spirit, Jesus Christ, and The HOly Spirit can be
all places at the same time. I would suggest not to think
in human terms that God talks to us from His body, as that
seems to be the thought that scripture does not ever mention.
I hope this helps Dolph. I think in contect with scripture,
you, I, all of us, need to use our imagination as scripture
applies to this matter. Now we know Elijah, Enoch were
taken to heaven alive, but read carefully scripture .
I do not believe the scripture goes into depth on this
issue wheter their bodies wents to heaven or where
there bodies went, but usually in the scriptures when
something is not vital to God to explain, it is not
important.There are many subjects people delve into
that dead ends in the bible, because if God were to
explain all this the bible would be to big as Paul states
to be contained in the whole earth.
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macca
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You keep thinking like that and you will never understand God and what it means to be IN THE SPIRIT.... most christians are limited by their understanding the spirit realm by what they know of the physical realm..we cannot understand God the Father , THE Holy Spirit by our physical senses.. They are spirit and need to be understood by our spirits whitch have to be reborn by the Spirit of God to have fellowship with the Godhead...
As John said 'I WAS IN THE SPIRIT ON THE LORD'S DAY' he was in the realm of God beyond this physical realm that day, it was something he was very familiar with..
How do you think Ananias could hear and know the voice of Jesus and respond without doubting as soon as he heard His command??? acts 9:
Because he was accustomed to being in the spirit talking and listening to the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit constantly.
macca
As John said 'I WAS IN THE SPIRIT ON THE LORD'S DAY' he was in the realm of God beyond this physical realm that day, it was something he was very familiar with..
How do you think Ananias could hear and know the voice of Jesus and respond without doubting as soon as he heard His command??? acts 9:
Because he was accustomed to being in the spirit talking and listening to the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit constantly.
macca