Dake Bible Discussion Board ⇒ Bodiless Spirits Exist. Why Can't God be Bodiless?

[luchnia]

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

As God is a spirit, I suppose the Word wasn't.
He was the other part of "We".

How do you get that God is (a spirit) and the Word was not?

One of Them had to have some substance.
Don't you think?

Who is the "We" you are talking about?

I should have said "Us", not "We", from Gen 1:26.

Yes both God and the Word (Jesus) have substance. Just because a person is a spirit does not mean they have no substance.

Can you tell me how to weigh "spirit"?

No I can't, just like you can't weigh the air... but it is still real and has substance.

Are you equating spirit with air?
Air can be quantified by scientific testing for the most minute trace particles, but spirit?

God is a spirit and is quantified in God's word because spirit has form and substance and is not void and empty - Gen. 18; 32:24-30; Ex. 24:9-11; Josh. 5:13-15; Judg. 6:11-23; 13:3-23; 1Chr. 21:16-17; Job 42:5; Isa. 6; Ezek. 1:26; Dan. 7:9-14; 10:5-6; Acts 7:56-59; Rev. 4:2-5; 5:1-7; etc.

[bibleman]

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

As God is a spirit, I suppose the Word wasn't.
He was the other part of "We".

How do you get that God is (a spirit) and the Word was not?

One of Them had to have some substance.
Don't you think?

Who is the "We" you are talking about?

I should have said "Us", not "We", from Gen 1:26.

Yes both God and the Word (Jesus) have substance. Just because a person is a spirit does not mean they have no substance.

Can you tell me how to weigh "spirit"?

No I can't, just like you can't weigh the air... but it is still real and has substance.

Are you equating spirit with air?
Air can be quantified by scientific testing for the most minute trace particles, but spirit?

No NOT equating... just used it as an example much like Jesus did.

John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

[Hill Top]

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

As God is a spirit, I suppose the Word wasn't.
He was the other part of "We".

How do you get that God is (a spirit) and the Word was not?

One of Them had to have some substance.
Don't you think?

Who is the "We" you are talking about?

I should have said "Us", not "We", from Gen 1:26.

Yes both God and the Word (Jesus) have substance. Just because a person is a spirit does not mean they have no substance.

Can you tell me how to weigh "spirit"?

No I can't, just like you can't weigh the air... but it is still real and has substance.

Are you equating spirit with air?
Air can be quantified by scientific testing for the most minute trace particles, but spirit?

God is a spirit and is quantified in God's word because spirit has form and substance and is not void and empty - Gen. 18; 32:24-30; Ex. 24:9-11; Josh. 5:13-15; Judg. 6:11-23; 13:3-23; 1Chr. 21:16-17; Job 42:5; Isa. 6; Ezek. 1:26; Dan. 7:9-14; 10:5-6; Acts 7:56-59; Rev. 4:2-5; 5:1-7; etc.

Instead of citing a dozen places, why not copy and paste just one that backs up your POV?
(That is something about Rev Dake's writings that I dislike.)

[Hill Top]

Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

As God is a spirit, I suppose the Word wasn't.
He was the other part of "We".

How do you get that God is (a spirit) and the Word was not?

One of Them had to have some substance.
Don't you think?

Who is the "We" you are talking about?

I should have said "Us", not "We", from Gen 1:26.

Yes both God and the Word (Jesus) have substance. Just because a person is a spirit does not mean they have no substance.

Can you tell me how to weigh "spirit"?

No I can't, just like you can't weigh the air... but it is still real and has substance.

Are you equating spirit with air?
Air can be quantified by scientific testing for the most minute trace particles, but spirit?

No NOT equating... just used it as an example much like Jesus did.

John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

As Jesus said, we can here it but we can't tell from where it came or where it is going.
If it were a tangible "substance" we could.

I'm not sure how we got on this line of thought, but I think I will bow out.

[luchnia]

I'm not sure how we got on this line of thought, but I think I will bow out.

Even though God has been touched, why does a spirit in general have to be tangible substance to be substance? Faith is not tangible and is substance that you cannot touch, but can see its results.

[Hill Top]

I'm not sure how we got on this line of thought, but I think I will bow out.

Even though God has been touched, why does a spirit in general have to be tangible substance to be substance? Faith is not tangible and is substance that you cannot touch, but can see its results.

If it is tangible it is not a spirit.
If it is tangible, it may be a spirit manifested as something tangible.

[luchnia]

If it is tangible it is not a spirit.
If it is tangible, it may be a spirit manifested as something tangible

Scripture says God is spirit and you say He is not tangible, or He is a spirit that manifest into something tangible? So the many scriptures posted that prove otherwise failed to record that chaos turns into non-chaos to be something tangible (manifest)?

I would like to know more about this theory of nothingness becoming something-ness on occasion. Maybe this is the missing link to this discussion.

[Hill Top]

If it is tangible it is not a spirit.
If it is tangible, it may be a spirit manifested as something tangible

Scripture says God is spirit and you say He is not tangible, or He is a spirit that manifest into something tangible? So the many scriptures posted that prove otherwise failed to record that chaos turns into non-chaos to be something tangible (manifest)?

I would like to know more about this theory of nothingness becoming something-ness on occasion. Maybe this is the missing link to this discussion.

A spirit was manifested as a dove, at Jesus' baptism in water, by John.
Without that dove, there would be no proof of a spirit.
And, a spirit isn't "nothingness", it is a spirit.

[patrissimo]

The earth is at the center of mass of the universe and so its size doesn't matter. Newton understood this.

[Hill Top]

The earth is at the center of mass of the universe and so its size doesn't matter. Newton understood this.

If you were at any other point in the universe besides earth, the red shift would be the same as it is here.
We would be flying away from them just as they are flying away from us.
Does that make them all centers of their universe?
Everything in the universe is flying apart equally from one another.