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What do you think of the prophetic ministry of Pastor Alph Lukau?

A) I really just don't know!
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20%
B) Pastor Alph is a fake!
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20%
C) Pastor Alph is the real deal, mightily used of God!
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60%
 
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Have you heard of Pastor Alph?

Post by bibleman » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:39 am



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Re: Have you heard of Pastor Alph?

Post by frenchie » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:42 pm

Bibleman said:
Have you heard of Pastor Alph?

I say no but i heard of the Holy Spirit and i voted C :mrgreen:

'' Did Jeremia also told me that you wore red underpants '' ( That was good. The Divinity can show their sense of humor. )



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Re: Have you heard of Pastor Alph?

Post by bibleman » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:21 pm

frenchie wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:42 pm
Bibleman said:
Have you heard of Pastor Alph?

I say no but i heard of the Holy Spirit and i voted C :mrgreen:

'' Did Jeremia also told me that you wore red underpants '' ( That was good. The Divinity can show their sense of humor. )
Yeah... the underpants was weird for sure.

But I have now listened to almost 100 hours of his ministry. My observation is:

Ministry is sound.
Praise and worship is great.
Jesus is lifted up all the time.
Members of the congregation are humble and really worshipful.
He does NOT receive a salary.

I tired to question as to could it be fake or real? And slim chance it could be fake but after so many people have been involved I don't see how it could be fake. So my humble evaluation is - has got to be real.


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Re: Have you heard of Pastor Alph?

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:14 pm

I had not heard of him, before today.

I do not know whether he is for real or not.

What's he like doctrinally?


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Re: Have you heard of Pastor Alph?

Post by frenchie » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:25 pm

Bibleman said:
'' Yeah... the underpants was weird for sure.''

Previously, the man who did'nt beleive in prophecies had told the pastor that he might have known his friend Jeremia and that he could have told him things about his personal life to use as '' fake prophecies ''
Hence the remark about his underwear. The sceptic man knew that even if his friend Jeremia staged the whole thing with Pastor Alph, he could'nt know the color of his undergarnment at this moment. ( This should be enought to convince him that it was legit and left him in a ludicrious situation since his friend Jeremia was not supposed to know this information. :mrgreen:

Thus it is demonstrated that God has a funny bone. :smilecolros:



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Re: Have you heard of Pastor Alph?

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:59 pm

There is speculation that he is most likely the world's richest pastor.
http://nigeriana.news/pastor-alph-lukau ... video.html

Here's a clip of his motorcade and entrance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaiKJ_Az9Qw

And, here's a video of his spiritual genealogy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ph9kywuVJQ

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Re: Have you heard of Pastor Alph?

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:15 pm

He traces his spiritual genealogy to a man named Sadhur Sundar Singh from India.

Here's an article about Sadhur Sundar Singh:

http://www.tentmaker.org/biographies/singh.htm

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Re: Have you heard of Pastor Alph?

Post by frenchie » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:23 pm

Spiritblade Diciple wrote:

Unless he was a well-paid audience plant.

Of course, i know that some of that can hapen. Early in my christian life i was amazed to learn that some '' preachers '' would fake healing miracles to stimulate faith in their audiences and produce real miracles.

In this case if there is a discernment of the spirits gift that i may use, i could'nt see anything suspicious, any red flag or anything of that sort. To me everything seems spontanious and legit but anybody can be fooled.



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Re: Have you heard of Pastor Alph?

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:25 pm

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:14 pm
What's he like doctrinally?
Just found his website. Here is his statement of faith:
  • 1. We believe in the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments, in their original writing, as fully inspired of God and accept them as the supreme and final authority for faith and life.
  • 2. We believe in one God, eternally existing in three Persons – Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
  • 3. We believe that Jesus Christ was begotten of the Father, conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary and is true God and true man.
  • 4. We believe that God created man in His own image; that man sinned and thereby incurred the penalty of sin which is death physically and spiritually; that all human beings inherit a sinful nature which issues (in the case of those who reach moral responsibility) in actual transgression involving personal guilt.
  • 5. With regards to sexual behavior, we believe in heterosexual relationships between a natural man and a natural woman within the confines of lawful matrimony.
  • 6. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ died for our sins a substitutionary sacrifice according to the Scriptures and that all who believe in Him are justified on the grounds of His shed blood.
  • 7. We believe in the bodily resurrection of the Lord Jesus, His ascension into Heaven, and His present life as our High Priest and Advocate.
  • 8. We believe in the personal return of the Lord Jesus Christ.
  • 9. We believe that all who repent of their sin and receive the Lord Jesus Christ by faith are born again of the Holy Spirit and thereby become children of God.
  • 10. We believe in the baptism in the Holy Spirit, empowering and equipping believers for service, with the accompanying supernatural gifts of the Holy Spirit; and in fellowship with the Holy Spirit. We believe in the divinely ordained ministries of Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor and Teacher.
  • 11.With regards to submission to authority, we believe in the principle of being in authority because you are under authority. As such, it is understood that membership shall be subject to submission to authority in matters pertaining to church governance, doctrine and personal behavior.
  • 12.We believe in the resurrection of both the just and the unjust, the eternal blessedness of the redeemed, and the eternal banishment of those who have rejected the offer of salvation.
  • 13.We believe that the one true Church is the whole company of those who have been redeemed by Jesus Christ and regenerated by the Holy Spirit; that the local church on earth should take its character from this concept of the Church spiritual and therefore, that the new birth and personal confession of Christ are essentials of church membership.
  • 14.We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ appointed two ordinances – Baptism in water and the Lord’s Supper to be observed as acts of obedience and as perpetual witnesses to the cardinal facts of the Christian faith, that Baptism is the immersion of the believer in water as a confession of identification with Christ in burial and resurrection and that the Lord’s Supper is the partaking of the emblems symbolic of the Savior’s broken body and shed blood, in remembrance of His sacrificial death, until he comes.
  • 15.We believe that divine healing was provided for in the Old and New Testament and is an integral part of the Gospel.
  • 16.We believe that the Bible teaches that without holiness no man can see the Lord. We believe in the doctrine of sanctification as a definite, yet progressive work of grace, commencing at the time of the new birth and continuing until the consummation of salvation.
  • 17.We believe the Leadership of the local church has the authority from the scriptures to withdraw the membership of any member for serious, unrepentant misconduct or similar cause.
  • 18.The Church is open to any further truth, which the Holy Spirit may illuminate from the Scriptures.


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Re: Have you heard of Pastor Alph?

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:31 pm

frenchie wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:23 pm
Spiritblade Diciple wrote:

Unless he was a well-paid audience plant.

Of course, i know that some of that can hapen. Early in my christian life i was amazed to learn that some '' preachers '' would fake healing miracles to stimulate faith in their audiences and produce real miracles.

In this case if there is a discernment of the spirits gift that i may use, i could'nt see anything suspicious, any red flag or anything of that sort. To me everything seems spontanious and legit but anybody can be fooled.
Agreed, Frenchie.

What do you make of his spiritual genealogy? Especially, Sadhur Sundar Singh: http://www.tentmaker.org/biographies/singh.htm.

I find it interesting that Singh apparently believed in post-mortem salvation. I'd like to hear what Pastor Alph Lukau believes on the matter. Especially, if he shares Singh's perspective (which he may not).


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— Luke 12:4-5 King James Version —
"And I say unto you My friends, be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear Him, which after He hath killed hath power to cast into Hell; yea, I say unto you, fear Him."

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