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"Why did Jesus say, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"

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"Why did Jesus say, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"

“And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46). This cry is a fulfillment of Psalm 22:1, one of many parallels between that psalm and the specific events of the crucifixion. It has been difficult to understand in what sense Jesus was “forsaken” by God. It is certain that God approved His work. It is certain that He was innocent. He had done nothing to forfeit the favor of God. As His own Son - holy, harmless, undefiled, and obedient - God still loved Him. In none of these senses could God have forsaken Him.

However, Isaiah tells us that “he bore our griefs and carried our sorrows; that he was wounded for our transgressions, and bruised for our iniquities; that the chastisement of our peace was laid upon him; that by his stripes we are healed” (Isaiah 53:4-5). He redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us (Galatians 3:13). He was made a sin-offering, and He died in our place, on our account, that He might bring us near to God. It was this, doubtless, which caused His intense sufferings. It was the manifestation of God’s hatred of sin, in some way which He has not explained, that Jesus experienced in that terrible hour. It was suffering endured by Him that was due to us, and suffering by which, and by which alone, we can be saved from eternal death.

In those awful moments, Jesus was expressing His feelings of abandonment as God placed the sins of the world on Him – and because of that had to “turn away” from Jesus. As Jesus was feeling that weight of sin, He was experiencing separation from God for the only time in all of eternity. It was at this time that 2 Corinthians 5:21 occurred, “God made Him who had no sin to be sin for us so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God.” Jesus became sin for us, so He felt the loneliness and abandonment that sin always produces, except that in His case, it was not His sin – it was ours.


Galatians 4: 16, Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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Great post Harry..... :angel: :angel: :angel:



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Re: "Why did Jesus say, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"

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LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR ROMANS 3:4

THE WORD OF GOD SAYS :

GOD SO LOVED HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON... JOHN 3:16


THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON IS IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER JOHN 1:18

JESUS CALLED JEHOVAH HIS OWN FATHER JOHN 5:18

JESUS CAME FORTH FROM GOD JOHN 5

THE FATHER WAS GREATER THAN JESUS THE SON JOHN 14:28

ALL AUTHORITY WAS GIVEN TO JESUS MATTHEW 28.

GOD HATH HIGHLY EXALTED HIM...PHILIPPIANS 2

PSALMS 2 JEHOVAH SAID UNTO ME THOU ART MY SON TODAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE.

THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD. 1 CORINTHIANS 11:3

JESUS SHALL DELIVER THE KINGDOM TO GOD THE FATHER 1 COR 15:24


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branham1965 wrote:LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR ROMANS 3:4

THE WORD OF GOD SAYS :

GOD SO LOVED HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON... JOHN 3:16


THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON IS IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER JOHN 1:18

JESUS CALLED JEHOVAH HIS OWN FATHER JOHN 5:18

JESUS CAME FORTH FROM GOD JOHN 5

THE FATHER WAS GREATER THAN JESUS THE SON JOHN 14:28

ALL AUTHORITY WAS GIVEN TO JESUS MATTHEW 28.

GOD HATH HIGHLY EXALTED HIM...PHILIPPIANS 2

PSALMS 2 JEHOVAH SAID UNTO ME THOU ART MY SON TODAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE.

THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD. 1 CORINTHIANS 11:3

JESUS SHALL DELIVER THE KINGDOM TO GOD THE FATHER 1 COR 15:24


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That perfectly proves my point!


Word up!

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what point is that luchnia?? :agrue:

please explain.
luchnia wrote:
branham1965 wrote:LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR ROMANS 3:4

THE WORD OF GOD SAYS :

GOD SO LOVED HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON... JOHN 3:16


THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON IS IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER JOHN 1:18

JESUS CALLED JEHOVAH HIS OWN FATHER JOHN 5:18

JESUS CAME FORTH FROM GOD JOHN 5

THE FATHER WAS GREATER THAN JESUS THE SON JOHN 14:28

ALL AUTHORITY WAS GIVEN TO JESUS MATTHEW 28.

GOD HATH HIGHLY EXALTED HIM...PHILIPPIANS 2

PSALMS 2 JEHOVAH SAID UNTO ME THOU ART MY SON TODAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE.

THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD. 1 CORINTHIANS 11:3

JESUS SHALL DELIVER THE KINGDOM TO GOD THE FATHER 1 COR 15:24


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That perfectly proves my point!



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branham1965 wrote:what point is that luchnia?? :agrue:

please explain.
luchnia wrote:
branham1965 wrote:LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR ROMANS 3:4

THE WORD OF GOD SAYS :

GOD SO LOVED HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON... JOHN 3:16


THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON IS IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER JOHN 1:18

JESUS CALLED JEHOVAH HIS OWN FATHER JOHN 5:18

JESUS CAME FORTH FROM GOD JOHN 5

THE FATHER WAS GREATER THAN JESUS THE SON JOHN 14:28

ALL AUTHORITY WAS GIVEN TO JESUS MATTHEW 28.

GOD HATH HIGHLY EXALTED HIM...PHILIPPIANS 2

PSALMS 2 JEHOVAH SAID UNTO ME THOU ART MY SON TODAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE.

THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD. 1 CORINTHIANS 11:3

JESUS SHALL DELIVER THE KINGDOM TO GOD THE FATHER 1 COR 15:24


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That perfectly proves my point!
That Jesus had the authority.


Word up!

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luchnia wrote:
branham1965 wrote:what point is that luchnia?? :agrue:

please explain.
luchnia wrote:
branham1965 wrote:LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR ROMANS 3:4

THE WORD OF GOD SAYS :

GOD SO LOVED HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON... JOHN 3:16


THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON IS IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER JOHN 1:18

JESUS CALLED JEHOVAH HIS OWN FATHER JOHN 5:18

JESUS CAME FORTH FROM GOD JOHN 5

THE FATHER WAS GREATER THAN JESUS THE SON JOHN 14:28

ALL AUTHORITY WAS GIVEN TO JESUS MATTHEW 28.

GOD HATH HIGHLY EXALTED HIM...PHILIPPIANS 2

PSALMS 2 JEHOVAH SAID UNTO ME THOU ART MY SON TODAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE.

THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD. 1 CORINTHIANS 11:3

JESUS SHALL DELIVER THE KINGDOM TO GOD THE FATHER 1 COR 15:24


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That perfectly proves my point!
That Jesus had the authority.
All of Jesus power and glory and authotity is given unto Him by His Father;

Matthew 28:18, And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

John 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.


Galatians 4: 16, Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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luchnia wrote:
branham1965 wrote:what point is that luchnia?? :agrue:

please explain.

billy wrote this :agrue:
branham1965 wrote:LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR ROMANS 3:4

THE WORD OF GOD SAYS :

GOD SO LOVED HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON... JOHN 3:16


THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON IS IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER JOHN 1:18

JESUS CALLED JEHOVAH HIS OWN FATHER JOHN 5:18

JESUS CAME FORTH FROM GOD JOHN 5

THE FATHER WAS GREATER THAN JESUS THE SON JOHN 14:28

ALL AUTHORITY WAS GIVEN TO JESUS MATTHEW 28.

GOD HATH HIGHLY EXALTED HIM...PHILIPPIANS 2

PSALMS 2 JEHOVAH SAID UNTO ME THOU ART MY SON TODAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE.

THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD. 1 CORINTHIANS 11:3

JESUS SHALL DELIVER THE KINGDOM TO GOD THE FATHER 1 COR 15:24


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That perfectly proves my point!
That Jesus had the authority.[/quote]



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billy wrote this part sighs...LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR ROMANS 3:4

THE WORD OF GOD SAYS :

GOD SO LOVED HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON... JOHN 3:16


THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON IS IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER JOHN 1:18

JESUS CALLED JEHOVAH HIS OWN FATHER JOHN 5:18

JESUS CAME FORTH FROM GOD JOHN 5

THE FATHER WAS GREATER THAN JESUS THE SON JOHN 14:28

ALL AUTHORITY WAS GIVEN TO JESUS MATTHEW 28.

GOD HATH HIGHLY EXALTED HIM...PHILIPPIANS 2

PSALMS 2 JEHOVAH SAID UNTO ME THOU ART MY SON TODAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE.

THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD. 1 CORINTHIANS 11:3

JESUS SHALL DELIVER THE KINGDOM TO GOD THE FATHER 1 COR 15:24



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Ironman wrote:
billy wrote this part.man am i ...sighs...
branham1965 wrote:LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR ROMANS 3:4

THE WORD OF GOD SAYS :

GOD SO LOVED HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON... JOHN 3:16


THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON IS IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER JOHN 1:18

JESUS CALLED JEHOVAH HIS OWN FATHER JOHN 5:18

JESUS CAME FORTH FROM GOD JOHN 5

THE FATHER WAS GREATER THAN JESUS THE SON JOHN 14:28

ALL AUTHORITY WAS GIVEN TO JESUS MATTHEW 28.

GOD HATH HIGHLY EXALTED HIM...PHILIPPIANS 2

PSALMS 2 JEHOVAH SAID UNTO ME THOU ART MY SON TODAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE.

THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD. 1 CORINTHIANS 11:3

JESUS SHALL DELIVER THE KINGDOM TO GOD THE FATHER 1 COR 15:24


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That perfectly proves my point!
[/quote]
That Jesus had the authority.[/quote]

All of Jesus power and glory and authotity is given unto Him by His Father;

Matthew 28:18, And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

John 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.[/quote]



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