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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:56 pm

branham1965 wrote: WEBSTERS SAYS Holocaust


- THE KILLING OF EUROPEAN JEWS BY THE NAZI'S IN WORLD WAR 2

and refers to

GENOCIDE :THE DELIBERATE AND SYSTEMATIC DESTRUCTION OF A RACIAL,POLITICAL OR CULTURAL GROUP.

That really happened in World War 2 .
That's not what Noah Webster wrote that it meant.

http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/Holocaust
Holocaust
HOL'OCAUST, noun [Gr. whole, and burnt, to burn.] A burnt-sacrifice or offering, the whole of which was consumed by fire; a species of sacrifice in use among the Jews and some pagan nations.
I submit the meaning of the word changed after Noah Webster wrote his 1828 dictionary.


2 Thessalonians 2:10b-12 King James Version
... because THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might be saved... God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: THAT THEY ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by branham1965 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:04 am

Amen Haz. :angel: :angel:
Ironman wrote:In my opinion, people who deny the holocaust are not much different than people who until this very day and beyond deny Jesus Christ.
Here is a man who was born in an obscure village, the child of a peasant woman. He worked as a carpenter until around age 30.

For three years He was an itinerant preacher. He never owned a home. He never wrote a book. He never held an office. He never went to college. He never did one of the things that usually accompany greatness. He had no credentials but Himself...While still a young man, the tide of popular opinion turned against him. His friends ran away. He went through the mockery of a trial. He was nailed upon a cross between two thieves. While He was dying His executioners gambled for the only piece of property He had on earth – His coat. When He was dead, He was laid in a borrowed grave through the pity of a friend.

I am far within the mark when I say that all the armies that ever marched, all the navies that were ever built; all the parliaments that ever sat and all the kings that ever reigned on this earth, put together, have not affected the lives of men upon this earth as powerfully as has Jesus Christ, the Word who became flesh, the very son of God? The devil wanted to destroy the Jews to prevent His coming and the devil is trying not only to destroy them today, but he is attempting to destroy all mankind, and unless Jesus returns, as He predicted the devil would probably eventually succeed.



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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by branham1965 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:16 am

This is not about terminology in my view.


THIS IS ABOUT THE MASS GENOCIDE OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE!!!!

We could not use enough nasty words to describe the sick horrors that the Nazi's used on the Jewish people in Hitler's Germany.



The Nazis wanted to destroy ,to eliminate,to eradicate


to annihilate the Jews from Europe. :agrue:


It was Genocide .

What does Pastor Anderson think about Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany??

:agrue:




Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
branham1965 wrote: WEBSTERS SAYS Holocaust


- THE KILLING OF EUROPEAN JEWS BY THE NAZI'S IN WORLD WAR 2

and refers to

GENOCIDE :THE DELIBERATE AND SYSTEMATIC DESTRUCTION OF A RACIAL,POLITICAL OR CULTURAL GROUP.

That really happened in World War 2 .
That's not what Noah Webster wrote that it meant.

http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/Holocaust
Holocaust
HOL'OCAUST, noun [Gr. whole, and burnt, to burn.] A burnt-sacrifice or offering, the whole of which was consumed by fire; a species of sacrifice in use among the Jews and some pagan nations.
I submit the meaning of the word changed after Noah Webster wrote his 1828 dictionary.



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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by branham1965 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:19 am

I do not doubt that Mr.Webster said that in 1828.

I have always wanted to buy one of those.I hear it has a lot of Scripture referred to by Mr.Webster.

But it does not do away with the fact that Nazi Germany murdered
millions of Jews in World War Two.

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
branham1965 wrote: WEBSTERS SAYS Holocaust


- THE KILLING OF EUROPEAN JEWS BY THE NAZI'S IN WORLD WAR 2

and refers to

GENOCIDE :THE DELIBERATE AND SYSTEMATIC DESTRUCTION OF A RACIAL,POLITICAL OR CULTURAL GROUP.

That really happened in World War 2 .
That's not what Noah Webster wrote that it meant.

http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/Holocaust
Holocaust
HOL'OCAUST, noun [Gr. whole, and burnt, to burn.] A burnt-sacrifice or offering, the whole of which was consumed by fire; a species of sacrifice in use among the Jews and some pagan nations.
I submit the meaning of the word changed after Noah Webster wrote his 1828 dictionary.



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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by luchnia » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:42 am

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
branham1965 wrote: WEBSTERS SAYS Holocaust


- THE KILLING OF EUROPEAN JEWS BY THE NAZI'S IN WORLD WAR 2

and refers to

GENOCIDE :THE DELIBERATE AND SYSTEMATIC DESTRUCTION OF A RACIAL,POLITICAL OR CULTURAL GROUP.

That really happened in World War 2 .
That's not what Noah Webster wrote that it meant.

http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/Holocaust
Holocaust
HOL'OCAUST, noun [Gr. whole, and burnt, to burn.] A burnt-sacrifice or offering, the whole of which was consumed by fire; a species of sacrifice in use among the Jews and some pagan nations.
I submit the meaning of the word changed after Noah Webster wrote his 1828 dictionary.
This would be a good thread topic. It took me some time, but I have one of the Noah Webster dictionaries. I am not sure of the date, but it is old and I am so often amazed and the definitions of the words.


Word up!

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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by branham1965 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:18 am

I am interested in what Pastor Steve L.Anderson thinks of :


1.Adolf Hitler

2.National Socialism





I just googled the word holocaust.

Everything that came up on my computer was about the Genocide of European Jewry by the National Socialists = Nazi's led by Adolf Hitler.



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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by Ironman » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:35 pm

Websters New Twentieth Century Dictionary Unabridged Second Edition - Delux Color 1972.

1. A burnt sacrifice or offering, the whole of which is consumed by fire.

2. Complete destruction of people or animals by fire.

3. A great widespread destruction, the systematic destruction of over six million European Jews by the Nazis before and during World War 11.
(And for you information spd, the words World War 2 are written in Websters as World War 11).


Galatians 4: 16, Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by branham1965 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:20 pm

Thank you mate. :angel: :angel:

Ironman wrote:Websters New Twentieth Century Dictionary Unabridged Second Edition - Delux Color 1972.

1. A burnt sacrifice or offering, the whole of which is consumed by fire.

2. Complete destruction of people or animals by fire.

3. A great widespread destruction, the systematic destruction of over six million European Jews by the Nazis before and during World War 11.
(And for you information spd, the words World War 2 are written in Websters as World War 11).



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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:56 pm

branham1965 wrote:I am interested in what Pastor Steve L.Anderson thinks of :


1.Adolf Hitler

2.National Socialism
Hi, Billy.

The short answer is he thinks that both are very evil and does not condone their actions in any way, shape, or form. Nor does he approve of exaggerating and/or lying about what they did, either.

The long answer is in the first five minutes of this video that I've shared with you many times, before. Please, listen to it if you really want to know what he thinks.


2 Thessalonians 2:10b-12 King James Version
... because THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might be saved... God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: THAT THEY ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:07 pm

branham1965 wrote:This is not about terminology in my view.
I view it as having a lot to do with terminology.

Someone deliberately chose to start applying the term 'holocaust' (which used to only apply to burnt offerings to a god or gods) to genocide.

To me, it's very similar to taking the word 'gay,' which used to mean 'happy,' and applying it to what the Bible calls filthy, flesh-defiling brute beasts made to be taken and destroyed.

Appropriating and redefining words is one way to go to war against the prevailing culture. As it has been said, many times, "the pen is mightier than the sword."


2 Thessalonians 2:10b-12 King James Version
... because THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might be saved... God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: THAT THEY ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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