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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:10 pm

branham1965 wrote:Does that nullify Romans 11???
Of course not.

If your view requires it to nullify Romans 11, might I suggest that it is your view which needs adjusted?



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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by branham1965 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:38 am

THE REVEREND FINIS JENNINGS DAKE

VS. MR.STEVEN L.ANDERSON



IF A PERSON THINKS THEY "KNOW" MORE THAN REVEREND DAKE

ITS OVER.... :agrue:



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branham1965 wrote:Does that nullify Romans 11???
Of course not.

If your view requires it to nullify Romans 11, might I suggest that it is your view which needs adjusted?



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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by branham1965 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:31 am

EITHER

REVEREND FINIS JENNINGS DAKE IS RIGHT

OR MR.ANDERSON IS RIGHT.


AND I KNOW WHO IS RIGHT.



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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by luchnia » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:57 am

You know it would be refreshing if posters would actually use God's word (in context) for arguments, especially in a thread that gets sidetracked and goes off into space such as this. Blanket statements without support are just that, blanket statements without support. Of course, one must have a keenful eye on the "one text wonders" that post out of context to support an argument.

Various sides of the argument can be right about many things and as well be ignorant about many things. If we believe someone to be promoting something false and we cannot support that belief, then that is simply our opinion, or how we perceive the matter and nothing more.


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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by luchnia » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:01 am

branham1965 wrote:EITHER

REVEREND FINIS JENNINGS DAKE IS RIGHT

OR MR.ANDERSON IS RIGHT.


AND I KNOW WHO IS RIGHT.
Maybe both contain truth? Ever thought that could be possible, instead of either/or? You may hate Anderson, yet that would not mean that some of what he says does not contain truth. (BTW, what I think of him is beside the point.) How do you separate the gold from the chaff so that you can reason against what is false?


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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by Spiritblade Disciple » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:14 am

Just to add to Luchnia's comments...

There have been a few posts in this thread that quoted verbatim from Calvinist websites, however no credit was given for the source.

To a Calvinist, I'm sure that the logic makes sense, but it doesn’t make as much sense from a Conditional Security perspective.



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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by luchnia » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:44 pm

Spiritblade Disciple wrote: While I agree that the were atrocities committed by the Nazis that were beyond comprehension, I will also say that the allies were in no way innocent, either.

I have read and watched video concerning the horrors brought to bear by Allied bombings of civilian centers that had no military or strategic value. White phosphorous is a damnable thing to drop on civilians. Furthermore, the war cut supply lines to the labor camps, allowing disease to run rampant, increasing the death rate far beyond what it would have been.

Also, please remember that the USA considered joining with Germany during World War Two. If the USA had joined the Nazis, the Final Solution may never have been considered.

And, remember, it was the Jews that declared war on Germany before any of them were ever taken to a labor camp. They declared beforehand that six million of them would die.

And, one other point... Do not forget that at one point the Jews were allied with National Socialism. Coins were even printed with the Nazi Swastika on one side and the (so-called) Star of David on the other side.

Also, I don't believe that the Germans decided on genocide from the beginning. I think it was a last resort. But, the real question is why did Germany consider the Jews such a threat that they needed to round them up and put them in labor camps to begin with? The history of the Jews being kicked out of over 100 countries since the time of Christ proves that practically every country they ever lived in viewed them as anathema.

Sometimes war is what the powers that be want. And, history is written by the victors and there is no guarantee that the truth will be told.
Very well thought out. Even people that live history often cannot tell it exactly as it happened. It is sad that so much happened that could have been avoided and makes you wonder how things would have changed had some of these things not occurred. It greiving that people have to war against each other.


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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by luchnia » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:57 pm

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:Just to add to Luchnia's comments...

There have been a few posts in this thread that quoted verbatim from Calvinist websites, however no credit was given for the source.

To a Calvinist, I'm sure that the logic makes sense, but it doesn’t make as much sense from a Conditional Security perspective.
Glad you brought that up. I will be more observant. I just assumed that folks typed their post. Most of the time if I quote something I put quotes around it. I don't often cut from websites as that is someone else's view.


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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by Ironman » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:39 pm

luchnia wrote:
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:Just to add to Luchnia's comments...

There have been a few posts in this thread that quoted verbatim from Calvinist websites, however no credit was given for the source.

To a Calvinist, I'm sure that the logic makes sense, but it doesn’t make as much sense from a Conditional Security perspective.
Glad you brought that up. I will be more observant. I just assumed that folks typed their post. Most of the time if I quote something I put quotes around it. I don't often cut from websites as that is someone else's view.
I quote from the Bible all the time, even cut and past from it. Would you call that someone else's view?


Galatians 4: 16, Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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Re: Dont deny the Holocaust.

Post by branham1965 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:04 pm

I agree with you Haz. :angel: :angel:

And i I look up to you.I mean it.You know the truth really well and you live it.





Ironman wrote:
luchnia wrote:
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:Just to add to Luchnia's comments...

There have been a few posts in this thread that quoted verbatim from Calvinist websites, however no credit was given for the source.

To a Calvinist, I'm sure that the logic makes sense, but it doesn’t make as much sense from a Conditional Security perspective.
Glad you brought that up. I will be more observant. I just assumed that folks typed their post. Most of the time if I quote something I put quotes around it. I don't often cut from websites as that is someone else's view.
I quote from the Bible all the time, even cut and past from it. Would you call that someone else's view?



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