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You Don't Get Unadopted

Postby Spiritblade Disciple » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:03 pm

Mark Allison wrote:All Christians are adopted children. You don’t get “unadopted” just because you sin.

I was once told that in Roman times, it was illegal to disown an adopted child. However, a person could disown their natural children. Just not their adopted children.

I have heard some Christians argue that since the New Testament was written during the time of Roman Law that the reason that the New Testament describes born again believers as being adopted into God's family has to do with this idea of the unconditional childship of the adopted person.

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    Isaiah 8:13 King James Version
      Sanctify the Lord of Hosts Himself; and let Him be your fear, and let Him be your dread.

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Re: You Don't Get Unadopted

Postby bibleman » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:55 am

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:
Mark Allison wrote:All Christians are adopted children. You don’t get “unadopted” just because you sin.

I was once told that in Roman times, it was illegal to disown an adopted child. However, a person could disown their natural children. Just not their adopted children.

I have heard some Christians argue that since the New Testament was written during the time of Roman Law that the reason that the New Testament describes born again believers as being adopted into God's family has to do with this idea of the unconditional childship of the adopted person.

Thoughts/Comments/Questions?


It really does not matter son or adopted... it is what you do that matters!

Matthew 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. (KJV)

Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. (KJV)


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Re: You Don't Get Unadopted

Postby branham1965 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:14 am

"Christ will change your life and make you happy ,free and victorious.That is His part.Your part is to confess and forsake sin.God does not bear grudges,He forgives and helps every time we need Him.He is not ready to consign you to eternal hell the moment you do something wrong.He is a kind loving Heavenly Father forgiving us even when we can't seem to forgive ourselves.All complications with God's dealings are on our part.Just be faithful to confess anything,resist temptation and make your life a living example to others that God's power can keep one who submits to Him."

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Re: You Don't Get Unadopted

Postby bibleman » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:11 pm

branham1965 wrote:On one side you have the folks who think you can cut someones head off and still be right with God and on the other you have the Lord with a baseball bat ready to destroy all of His children especially new or young Christians.

People are under attack today.They are being vexed by the devil.People have serious problems...

When i catch a whiff of the ivory tower :i am so blessed and have it all together and you are not, you no good rotten sinner.

it turns my stomach.

NO GREAT MEN AND WOMEN OF GOD WITH THE POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST IN THEM WITH PROVEN MINISTRIES ADDRESS THE SIN QUESTION FROM THE POINT OF LOOKING DOWN THEIR NOSES AT ANYONE.


BIlly,

Hum... I have been a Christian for a number of years now and I have never met a Christian that looks down their nose at anyone who is a sinner.

The Christians I have seen want them saved.


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Re: You Don't Get Unadopted

Postby branham1965 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:31 pm

There ARE things i want to discuss along this line

but i cannot do it now. :agrue:



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Re: You Don't Get Unadopted

Postby macca » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:13 am

The only sinner we should have problems with are the ones that claim they are Christians and living like the devil.
Fake Christians that are deceived by false doctrine, wrong teaching and or believe anything but the word of God.
Those outside of the Church of Jesus Christ are the fields ripe for harvest.


For ALL the promises of God in Him are YES, and in Him AMEN, unto the glory of God by us.

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Re: You Don't Get Unadopted

Postby Ironman » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:51 pm

Eternal Security teachers declare that the Prodigal Son remained a son all during his wild living with the prostitutes. By doing so they miss the point of Jesus' teaching that there are different kinds of lost people which he started to teach about at the beginning of Luke 15. Also, by teaching that way such teachers are indirectly saying there are Christians who sin with prostitutes -- a painfully clear proclamation of both a doctrine of demons and a licence for immortality. Numerous times we are shown in other Scriptures that it is impossible to be sexually immoral and a Christian simultaneously (1 Cor. 6:9,10; Eph. 5:5-7; Gal. 5:19-21; Rev. 22:15; etc.). Notice, the Prodigal Son is not actually labeled a son by the Father when he was in unrepentant wickedness. It is glaringly unscriptural to say one is spiritually dead and lost and a son of God at the same time.


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I'll be a fool for truth's sake. Truth is fallen in the street. I wont pass it by. I'll pick it up and embrace it regardless of the costs.

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Re: You Don't Get Unadopted

Postby macca » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:52 am

Ironman wrote:Eternal Security teachers declare that the Prodigal Son remained a son all during his wild living with the prostitutes. By doing so they miss the point of Jesus' teaching that there are different kinds of lost people which he started to teach about at the beginning of Luke 15. Also, by teaching that way such teachers are indirectly saying there are Christians who sin with prostitutes -- a painfully clear proclamation of both a doctrine of demons and a licence for immortality. Numerous times we are shown in other Scriptures that it is impossible to be sexually immoral and a Christian simultaneously (1 Cor. 6:9,10; Eph. 5:5-7; Gal. 5:19-21; Rev. 22:15; etc.). Notice, the Prodigal Son is not actually labeled a son by the Father when he was in unrepentant wickedness. It is glaringly unscriptural to say one is spiritually dead and lost and a son of God at the same time.





Good post.


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Re: You Don't Get Unadopted

Postby branham1965 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:02 pm

Christians in the real world are at war .And they can get out of fellowship with God.And if they do then they cry out to God and confess their sins.They must mean it with all their heart.And then they are forgiven.

For the relationship of a believer to be severed ...that is another story.



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Re: You Don't Get Unadopted

Postby bibleman » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:29 pm

branham1965 wrote:Christians in the real world are at war .And they can get out of fellowship with God.And if they do then they cry out to God and confess their sins.They must mean it with all their heart.And then they are forgiven.

For the relationship of a believer to be severed ...that is another story.


How many people can a person kill before he loses his salvation? 5, 10, 20? or 1?


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