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The last reformation

Postby frenchie » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:26 pm

Hi!
Tomorow in my city there is an evangelist coming his name is Torben Sondergaard.
Anyone ever heard of him?



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Re: The last reformation

Postby Spiritblade Disciple » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:01 pm

How was it, Frenchie?

I looked him up, but I had not heard of him.



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Re: The last reformation

Postby frenchie » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:56 pm

Hi! Spirit blade Disciple
Finaly, it was'nt Torben Sondergaard, himself but someone from his movement.After looking about him on google and youtube, i was'nt inspired to go to these meetings. My wife went with few friends, they said it was interesting.
They want to baptise you in the name of Jesus but not in the name of the Father or the Holy Spirit
( Which raise a red flag to me ) They insist to baptise urgently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZiop3tK7SU

The seems to be very zealous to preach in the malls, restaurants ect. They atribute sickness to demons and push very much on deliverance. They speak in tongues.
Their leader claim to have initiate lhe last reformation before the return of the Lord, they think that the churches have lost it and want to return to the church of the acts of the apostles.

As for myself, i beleive the Lord instituted the local churches and the pastors, doctors, evangelists ect .
I feel all my needs are well suplied where i beleive The Lord had put me and i don't think i need to go left or right to find something more. Altoug I think my wife whent more by curiosity and they seems to attract quite a bit of people from christians churches.
Since i did'nt go to the metings this is just my impression
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Re: The last reformation

Postby frenchie » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:15 am

It reminds me few years ago when the Toronto blessing hapened, many christians whent to witness what was going on.
After they came back, they where super spirituals and if you did'nt go to Toronto, you just didnt have it,

People started to search more for '' manifestations '' the more weird the more '' spiritual '' and tried to duplicate what they had seen until it mostly fade away.
Another movement? A new fashion? i have seen quite a few since the 40 years i met the Lord. Sincere people thirsty for more are atracted to many novelties but we must be vigilant and stand on the word not just miracles.
It is sometimes a subtle mix of thruth and lies.



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Re: The last reformation

Postby luchnia » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:21 am

frenchie wrote:It reminds me few years ago when the Toronto blessing hapened, many christians whent to witness what was going on.
After they came back, they where super spirituals and if you did'nt go to Toronto, you just didnt have it,

People started to search more for '' manifestations '' the more weird the more '' spiritual '' and tried to duplicate what they had seen until it mostly fade away.
Another movement? A new fashion? i have seen quite a few since the 40 years i met the Lord. Sincere people thirsty for more are atracted to many novelties but we must be vigilant and stand on the word not just miracles.
It is sometimes a subtle mix of thruth and lies.

I could not agree more - a subtle mix or truth and lies! Why do men think they have to start any movements? Jesus already completed what was to be done and gave the instructions on carrying it out. Why do men feel the need to change that?

I remember studying some of the "movements" and thinking what in the world was all that coming from the mouths of men and not God? Another thing we find is that folks rarely test these things and weigh them against God's word. They just blindly follow whatever it is like the gold fillings in folks teeth, being slain, ears tickled with false prophecies, and other bizarre oddities that folks claimed were from God. It still continues today and as long as men desire to be lifted up I think you will continue to see that.

I remember visiting a church once that everyone had to go up in front of the congregation to "fall out" and I was thinking there is plenty of room in the back that won't distract anyone or endanger the elderly. You could even go back in the hall and fall out where no one was at. Why not go back there and fall out?

You think they were falling out in back? Nope, not a one. They simply would not get the attention of everyone had they done that. You could quickly tell what that was all about. You are so right, another movement, a new fashion and being attracted to novelties?

I could go on and on and on about what I have seen!


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Re: The last reformation

Postby frenchie » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:03 pm

Hi! Mr.Luchnia.
What can i say. Today my wife brought them home, 15 minutes after their arrival they where baptising people in the bathtup, praying in tongues and chassing demons in a formal way. ( I mean not overreacting in a crasy manner.)
My wife is a christian for 40 years also and she whent to few of their meetings so i let her the benefit of the doubt as for letting them in., i was'nt sure about them and i did'nt want to kick them out for fear of making a mistake. I could'nt discern something realy wrong from what i was overearing.
To say the truth i did'nd even came out of my room, not that i was affraid of them but i did'nt want to engage an unnessesary confrontation. I let them do their thing to see if any good would come out of it.
Anyways, time will tell what this thing will bring, it is quite new here and a bit soon to make a sound opinion.
Any advice will be considered.
To be continued...



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Re: The last reformation

Postby Spiritblade Disciple » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:37 pm

Very interesting.

Thank you for sharing, Frenchie.




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