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Bro Hagin says you won't go to Hell for killing 300 people!

Postby bibleman » Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:40 pm

Hi all,

Well I finally found it. Brother Hagin get real clear on sin. According to Brother Hagin the ONLY sin that people will go to Hell for is the sin of rejecting Jesus Christ.

At 6:00 in this video he says:

If you robbed 100 banks, if you committed adultery 1,000 times, if you killed 300 people, not a one of them would send you to Hell.


Very sad to hear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAFawQM5TMA&t=333s


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Re: Bro Hagin says you want go to Hell for killing 300 people!

Postby Spiritblade Disciple » Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:52 pm

Not surprising, at all, Leon.

I studied many of Hagin's books, over and over again, decades ago, before ever reading Dake. Believed in OSAS at that time, too, with the exception that if a saved person rejected Christ, they could go to Hell if they wanted to.



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Re: Bro Hagin says you want go to Hell for killing 300 people!

Postby bibleman » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:04 pm

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:Not surprising, at all, Leon.

I studied many of Hagin's books, over and over again, decades ago, before ever reading Dake. Believed in OSAS at that time, too, with the exception that if a saved person rejected Christ, they could go to Hell if they wanted to.


Yeah me too...

And as you know you could listen to some Hagin tapes and hear one thing on the subject and then others you would hear almost the opposite.

But in this segment of the tape He really clears it up... you can get saved and then: "rob 100 banks, commit adultery 1,000 times and kill 300 people... " and still be on your way to Heaven!

If that is the case (and I Disagree that it is)... salvation would be meaningless because the saved person can just as much as the unsaved person - thus no difference!

Rats! Clear my throat! Stomp my foot! Beat my head against the wall! (better stop - I might knock something loose in my head that I might need! +goofy


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Re: Bro Hagin says you won't go to Hell for killing 300 people!

Postby Spiritblade Disciple » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:22 pm

But in this segment of the tape He really clears it up... you can get saved and then: "rob 100 banks, commit adultery 1,000 times and kill 300 people... " and still be on your way to Heaven!


What's the real difference between Hagin's OSAS as long as you want to be saved while sinning all you want... And, Dake's conditional security where the genuinely saved person could rob 100 banks, commit adultery 1,000 times, and kill 300 people and be saved and lost and saved again any number of times in between each sinful act and then still go to Heaven so long as they are saved when they die? Other than they might die while a some unsaved point?

In the end, both people have done all the same things. And the OSAS person has probably asked for forgiveness and repented as often as the conditional security person!



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Re: Bro Hagin says you won't go to Hell for killing 300 people!

Postby Ironman » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:32 pm

With all his faults, like you, me and everybody else on here, including Finis Dake, Dad Hagin had some faults and made some errors as we all have. (No laughing matter). I have listened to most of his sermons and have liked him ever since.


Have I become your enemy, because I tell you the truth.

I'll be a fool for truth's sake. Truth is fallen in the street. I wont pass it by. I'll pick it up and embrace it regardless of the costs.

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Re: Bro Hagin says you won't go to Hell for killing 300 people!

Postby bibleman » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:37 pm

Ironman wrote:With all his faults, like you, me and everybody else on here, including Finis Dake, Dad Hagin had some faults and made some errors as we all have. (No laughing matter). I have listened to most of his sermons and have liked him ever since.


Yeap! I listen to him most everyday. But that being said this is a pretty big error!


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Re: Bro Hagin says you won't go to Hell for killing 300 people!

Postby Ironman » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:49 pm

Like I said earlier,
"With all his faults, like you, me and everybody else on here, including Finis Dake, Dad Hagin had some faults and made some errors as we all have. (No laughing matter). I have listened to most of his sermons and have liked him ever since."


Me too, I wont put anyone down, remember judge not.

I was on another forum a day or so ago supporting Finis Dake. A long term member on that forum was telling members that Dake was a heretic, a child molester, and went into detail adding that he never repented and simply blamed the devil for making him do it? He added, who would follow or believe any teaching that came out of his heretical mouth. I was warned by the boards owner I would be banned if I continued to insult the member making the accusations. How I insulted the member simply by defending Dake was beyond me?

Matthew 7:1, Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Matthew 7:2, For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Luke 6:37, Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:


Have I become your enemy, because I tell you the truth.

I'll be a fool for truth's sake. Truth is fallen in the street. I wont pass it by. I'll pick it up and embrace it regardless of the costs.

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Re: Bro Hagin says you won't go to Hell for killing 300 people!

Postby bibleman » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:08 pm

Ironman wrote:Like I said earlier,
"With all his faults, like you, me and everybody else on here, including Finis Dake, Dad Hagin had some faults and made some errors as we all have. (No laughing matter). I have listened to most of his sermons and have liked him ever since."


Me too, I wont put anyone down, remember judge not.

I was on another forum a day or so ago supporting Finis Dake. A long term member on that forum was telling members that Dake was a heretic, a child molester, and went into detail adding that he never repented and simply blamed the devil for making him do it? He added, who would follow or believe any teaching that came out of his heretical mouth. I was warned by the boards owner I would be banned if I continued to insult the member making the accusations. How I insulted the member simply by defending Dake was beyond me?

Matthew 7:1, Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Matthew 7:2, For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Luke 6:37, Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:


I agree that we don't judge someone's motives or their heart.

But we are to judge their words.

Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 1 Cor 14:29


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Re: Bro Hagin says you won't go to Hell for killing 300 people!

Postby macca » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:48 am

Leon I do not hear Dad say what you are claiming at all..... Dad is talking about the world.. not Christians and as such I totally agree with what he said.
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Re: Bro Hagin says you won't go to Hell for killing 300 people!

Postby branham1965 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:56 am

Thank you macca. i AGREE WITH YOU 100%%%%%

i appreciate you and Haz commenting on this.








macca wrote:Leon I do not hear Dad say what you are claiming at all..... Dad is talking about the world.. not Christians and as such I totally agree with what he said.
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