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Re: Eternal Security

Postby bibleman » Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:00 am

olindquist wrote:Bibleman that response is not even rationale. It's obvious somewhere along the way you got offended.
"A brother offended is harder to be won then a strong city and their contentions are like the bars of a castle." proverbs 17:14

"The wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace".

You need to really prayerfully consider the purpose of this discussion board and that it is honoring to God.

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Sorry you feel that way my friend. But I am not offended at all. If I have said anything that offends you I am sorry for sure. I was just pointing out how that sin brings on the death penalty as according to Romans 3:23. I was trying to make you aware of a person CAN NOT sin and get by with it.

I truly believe that killing your wife is a sin, whether a person is convicted or knows it is wrong!
I truly believe that setting fire to the whole 3rd grade class at school horribly burning all the children, is a sin, whether a person is convicted or knows it is wrong!
I truly believe that cutting into pieces the Pastor at church and eating him as you roast his wife on a fire pit, is a sin, whether a person is convicted or knows it is wrong!

I truly believe all of those things are death penalty sins no matter if a person says his conscience did not bother him or no matter that he had never heard they were wrong.

That was all I was trying to say.

How did that offend you?


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Re: Eternal Security

Postby Ironman » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:04 pm

olindquist wrote:Bibleman that response is not even rationale. It's obvious somewhere along the way you got offended.
"A brother offended is harder to be won then a strong city and their contentions are like the bars of a castle." proverbs 17:14

"The wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace".

You need to really prayerfully consider the purpose of this discussion board and that it is honoring to God.

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And you expect us to believe your posts are ? ? ?

You wrote; "A brother offended is harder to be won then a strong city and their contentions are like the bars of a castle." proverbs 17:14. . . .WRONG. . . . That's Proverbs 18:19.

If your going to quote Scripture to show you wisdom, at least get it right.

Proverbs 17: 14, The beginning of strife is as when one letteth out water: therefore leave off contention, before it be meddled with.
Maybe you need to carefully consider who your dressing down after all, it is HIS BOARD.


Have I become your enemy, because I tell you the truth.

I'll be a fool for truth's sake. Truth is fallen in the street. I wont pass it by. I'll pick it up and embrace it regardless of the costs.

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Re: Eternal Security

Postby Ironman » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:31 am

Ironman wrote:
olindquist wrote:Bibleman that response is not even rationale. It's obvious somewhere along the way you got offended.
"A brother offended is harder to be won then a strong city and their contentions are like the bars of a castle." proverbs 17:14

"The wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace".

You need to really prayerfully consider the purpose of this discussion board and that it is honoring to God.

These replies are no longer constructive.


And you expect us to believe your posts are constructive and helpful ? ? ?

You wrote; "A brother offended is harder to be won then a strong city and their contentions are like the bars of a castle." proverbs 17:14. . . .WRONG. . . . That's Proverbs 18:19.

If your going to quote Scripture to show you wisdom, at least get it right.

Proverbs 17: 14, The beginning of strife is as when one letteth out water: therefore leave off contention, before it be meddled with.
Maybe you need to carefully consider who your dressing down after all, it is HIS BOARD.


Have I become your enemy, because I tell you the truth.

I'll be a fool for truth's sake. Truth is fallen in the street. I wont pass it by. I'll pick it up and embrace it regardless of the costs.

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Re: Eternal Security

Postby macca » Tue Aug 01, 2017 1:51 am

1 Cor. 8:11;
And because of your knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?

Who committed the greater sin? You, because of your knowledge that allows you freedom in Christ.
Or the weak brother in Christ who goes against his conscience and the inward witness to do something that condemns him,
because its not of faith.????

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Re: Eternal Security

Postby olindquist » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:19 pm

Hi Bibleman,

I want to apologize again for my attitude & accusations. And I also want to apologize to anyone whom I may have offended that has read these posts.

As far as the subject on eternal security, I will continue to get in the Word and let the Holy Spirit be my teacher.



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Re: Eternal Security

Postby bibleman » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:42 pm

olindquist wrote:Hi Bibleman,

I want to apologize again for my attitude & accusations. And I also want to apologize to anyone whom I may have offended that has read these posts.

As far as the subject on eternal security, I will continue to get in the Word and let the Holy Spirit be my teacher.


No apology necessary!

This board is devoted to Bible discussion. Sometimes people agree and sometimes they do not.

No problem at all!

And yes, we would all do well to "get in the Word and let the Holy Spirit be "our" teacher."


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Re: Eternal Security

Postby Ironman » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:10 pm

olindquist wrote:Hi Bibleman,

I want to apologize again for my attitude & accusations. And I also want to apologize to anyone whom I may have offended that has read these posts.

As far as the subject on eternal security, I will continue to get in the Word and let the Holy Spirit be my teacher.


No worries mate, yes, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the only one's to rely upon.


Have I become your enemy, because I tell you the truth.

I'll be a fool for truth's sake. Truth is fallen in the street. I wont pass it by. I'll pick it up and embrace it regardless of the costs.

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Re: Eternal Security

Postby branham1965 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:40 pm

Reverend Dake answering a person on these kind of issues said as i recall...

if you just give even half an effort ...God will help you.

but if you think you are going to persist in mischief and misbehave

you are in trouble and you will be in trouble ...now don't you get mad at me now.i will meet you at the Judgement.



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Re: Eternal Security

Postby olindquist » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:19 am

Here are some points brought out so far from these posts that has raised a question in my mind:

1) There are certain scriptures in Dake's God Plan for Man that he has listed as death penalty sins.
2) It was posted that not all sins are the same.
3) Romans 6:23 "The wages of sin is death".

To me the logical question from these 3 points is: What sin(s) can be committed that are not on the list of scriptures listed as death penalty sins and not incur the death penalty if not confessed and repented of?



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Re: Eternal Security

Postby bibleman » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:54 am

olindquist wrote:Here are some points brought out so far from these posts that has raised a question in my mind:

1) There are certain scriptures in Dake's God Plan for Man that he has listed as death penalty sins.
2) It was posted that not all sins are the same.
3) Romans 6:23 "The wages of sin is death".

To me the logical question from these 3 points is: What sin(s) can be committed that are not on the list of scriptures listed as death penalty sins and not incur the death penalty if not confessed and repented of?


Here is one I can think of....

We have a gift to ministry to children in the nursery!

1) We do not ministry to children in the nursery - We sin against ourselves in not doing what our gift enables us to do.
2) We do not ministry to children in the nursery - We sin against the children that we could have ministered to.
3) We do not ministry to children in the nursery - We sin against God who gave us the gift to use for His glory.

But it is NOT a death penalty sin.

At the Judgement Seat of Christ we will be judged and we will loose rewards but not our soul.

That particular sin will be burned up as wood, hay and stubble.

1 Corinthians 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. (KJV)

Does that make it a little more understandable?


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