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NIV 2011 update and Mark 16:9-20

Postby branham1965 » Sun May 14, 2017 6:06 am

I noticed in the NIV 2011 update that the verses from Mark

16:9-20 ........ are it italics.

Just like they are in the New World Translation of the Watchtower (Jehovah's Witnesses). And many many modern study Bibles and versions want to excise them from Holy Writ.

Some folks really really ...really want those verses out of the Bible.Their is something diabolic to it.

Reverend Dake addressed Mark 16:9-20 in the DARB .

And he proves :angel: :angel: they are Scripture and belong in the Word of God.



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Re: NIV 2011 update and Mark 16:9-20

Postby Ironman » Sun May 14, 2017 5:12 pm

Check this out billy;

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/niv_exposed.htm





The NIV perverts the deity of Jesus Christ!

I TIMOTHY 3:16: The clearest verse in the Bible proclaiming that Jesus Christ was God. The King James Bible (KJB) reads, "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH. . ." The King James says, plainly, "GOD was manifest in the flesh". The NIV reads, "HE appeared in a body". The NIV "twists" "GOD" to "HE". "HE appeared in a body"? So What? Everyone has "appeared in a body"! "He" is a pronoun that refers to a noun or antecedent. There is no antecedent in the context! The statement does NOT make sense! The NIV subtilty (see Genesis 3:1) perverts I Timothy 3:16 into utter nonsense!

PHILIPPIANS 2:6: The KJB again, clearly declares the deity of Jesus Christ: "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery TO BE EQUAL WITH GOD" The NIV reads, "Who, being in very nature God, DID NOT CONSIDER EQUALITY WITH GOD something to be grasped,". The NIV again subtitly perverts the deity of Jesus Christ!



The NIV perverts the virgin birth!

LUKE 2:33: The King James Bible reads, "And JOSEPH and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him." The NIV reads, "The CHILD'S FATHER and mother marveled at what was said about him." The "CHILD'S FATHER"? Was Joseph Jesus's father? Not if you believe the virgin birth! Not if you believe John 3:16, that Jesus Christ was the Son of God! A subtil, "perversion" of the virgin birth. See also Luke 2:43.


The NIV removes the blood of Jesus Christ!

COLOSSIANS 1:14: The KJB reads, "In whom we have redemption THROUGH HIS BLOOD, even the forgiveness of sins:" The NIV reads, "In whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins." The NIV rips out the precious words "THROUGH HIS BLOOD"! Friend, redemption is ONLY "THROUGH HIS BLOOD". Hebrews 9:22, reads, ". . . without shedding of BLOOD is no remission." That old song says, "What can wash away my sins, NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD OF JESUS!"



The NIV perverts John 3:16 into a LIE!

JOHN 3:16: The NIV reads, "For God so loved the world that he gave his ONE AND ONLY SON, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" Jesus was NOT "the one and only son" - Adam is called the "son of God" in Luke 3:38, there are "sons of God" in Job 1:6 and Christians are called "sons of God" in Phil 2:15, I John 3:2- but Jesus was the "ONLY BEGOTTEN SON"! By removing the critical word "BEGOTTEN" - The NIV perverts John 3:16 into a LIE! The NIV does the same in John 1:14, 1:18, and 3:18.



The NIV perverts TRUTH into LIES!

The NIV perverts Mark 1:2,3 into a LIE! The NIV reads "It is written in Isaiah the prophet: I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way-a voice of one calling in the desert, Prepare the way for the Lord, make straight paths for him." It is NOT written in Isaiah! "I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way" - is found in Malachi 3:1! The King James correctly reads: "As it is written in the PROPHETS, . . ." A better translation! Easier to read - BY A LIE!

Psalms 119:160 says, "Thy word is TRUE. . ." John 17:17 says, ". . . thy word is TRUTH." Titus 1:2 clearly says, ". . . God that CANNOT LIE" How could the God of Titus 1:2 be the God of Mark 1:2,3 in the NIV!? IT IS IMPOSSIBLE! For Hebrews 6:18 clearly declares, ". . . it was IMPOSSIBLE for God to LIE" It is impossible for the LIES in the NIV to be the words of GOD! Whose words are they? I'll give you a hint - Jesus Christ calls him "A LIAR, and the father of it" in John 8:44!

The NIV again openly LIES in 2 Samuel 21:19, ". . . Elhanan son of Jaare-Oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite, who had a spear with a shaft like a weaver's rod." What 8-year-old doesn't know that David killed Goliath?

Romans 1:18-32 describes the "path to perversion" and verse 25, describes their decline, "Who changed the TRUTH of God into a LIE. . ."! Not surprisingly, The NIV perverts Romans 1:25 from "CHANGED the truth of God INTO a lie" to "EXCHANGED the truth of God FOR a lie"!


The NIV and sexual perversion!

Romans 1:26-32 also shows the "fruits" of "sowing" ". . . the TRUTH of God into a LIE. . ." Verses 26-27 says "FOR THIS CAUSE (vs 25 for "changing the TRUTH of God into a LIE") God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, . . ."

The last few years homosexuality and sexual perversion have "exploded" into the mainstream. Legislation is now pending making same-sex marriages legal. Books such as Heather Has Two Mommies and Daddy's Roommate, promoting homosexuality, are in our schools. According to The Washington Post, bisexuality and homosexuality, are the "in thing" in our public schools. And even churches are now welcoming homosexuals and are even ordaining them in the ministry!

A literary critic on the NIV translation was homosexual author Dr. Virginia Mollenkott. In Episcopal, Witness (June 1991, pp. 20-23), she admits, "My lesbianism has ALWAYS been a part of me. . ." To no surprise, "sodomite" is completely removed from the NIV. (Deut. 23:17, I Kings 14:24, 15:12, 22:46, II Kings 23:7) And of course, I Cor. 6:9, ". . . effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind. . ." is replaced with the non-offensive ". . . nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders. . ." Notice the NIV in I Cor. 6:9 does NOT condemn "homosexuals" or the "act of homosexuality" - but ONLY "homosexual OFFENDERS".


Have I become your enemy, because I tell you the truth.

I'll be a fool for truth's sake. Truth is fallen in the street. I wont pass it by. I'll pick it up and embrace it regardless of the costs.

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Re: NIV 2011 update and Mark 16:9-20

Postby branham1965 » Mon May 15, 2017 1:52 am

That is really something. :agrue:



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Re: NIV 2011 update and Mark 16:9-20

Postby Spiritblade Disciple » Mon May 15, 2017 6:45 pm

I've never met and NIV2011-Onlyist, but I'd imagine that there's someone out there who could write a similar article about the KJV or any other favored translation or version. It'd be harder for some, but I'd be surprised if there weren't someone out there that could point out the flaws in any of our favorite versions.

Is there a complete perfect Bible anywhere, in any language that contains God's perfectly pure preserved words?



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Re: NIV 2011 update and Mark 16:9-20

Postby Ironman » Mon May 15, 2017 6:50 pm

Spiritblade Disciple wrote:I've never met and NIV2011-Onlyist, but I'd imagine that there's someone out there who could write a similar article about the KJV or any other favored translation or version. It'd be harder for some, but I'd be surprised if there weren't someone out there that could point out the flaws in any of our favorite versions.

Is there a complete perfect Bible anywhere, in any language that contains God's perfectly pure preserved words?


Don't imagine it, believe it. The devil has many on his side who will discredit the Word of God in every way imaginable. For instance;

The following paragraphs are taken from Isaac H. Hall, ed., The Revised New Testament and History of Revision, giving a literal reprint of the Authorized English Edition of the Revised New Testament, with a brief history of the origin and transmission of the New Testament Scriptures, and of its many versions and revisions that have been made, also a complete history of this last great combined movement of the best scholarship of the world; with reasons for the effort; advantages gained; sketches of the eminent men engaged upon it, etc., etc. prepared under the direction of Professor Isaac H. Hall, LL.B.; Ph. D. Philadelphia: Hubbard Brothers; Atlanta: C.R. Blackall & Co.; New York: A.L. Bancroft & Co., 1881.

Defects of the King James Version

EXCELLENT BUT DEFECTIVE.
After all the words of high praise spoken for this version, it may seem strange to pass to an extended discussion of its defects. And yet it must be confessed that this highly esteemed version is excellent, but defective. The Chairman of the American Company of New Testament Revisers, President Woolsey, D. D., LL.D., thus summarizes these defects: "Our translators of the seventeenth century, in a great many instances, misunderstood the sense. To make this as evident as it may be made we should need to write a volume .... The main deficiency in our translation proceeds from want of exact knowledge of the Hebrew and Greek languages. Not only is the sense wholly misapprehended in a number of instances—as could scarcely fail of being the case—but a perception of the finer rules of grammar and interpretation was wanting. In the use of the article, of the tenses and modes of verbs, and of participles, and in a great variety of other instances, the modern scholar by his revisions can repair and beautify the building reared by the older scholars. Thus, while no book can be written more fitted in style and expression to do its work, more truly English, more harmonious, more simply majestic, than our Authorized Version; new revisers of the text and the version may hope by their salutary changes—to contribute to its preservation, in essentially the same form which it has always had, for generations yet to come."

Read more here;
http://www.bible-researcher.com/kjvdefects.html

DEFECTS ILLUSTRATED.


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Re: NIV 2011 update and Mark 16:9-20

Postby branham1965 » Mon May 15, 2017 11:30 pm

REVEREND DAKE says on audio tape that when he received the Supernatural Ability to quote the Scriptures , it was ALWAYS in the "old fashioned King James Version".

He said that if modern versions would take over our Churches in place of the "old fashioned King James Version" that would be bad.

They have taken over the Churches everywhere .The largest Pentecostal Denomination in the world uses the NIV.



Ironman wrote:
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:I've never met and NIV2011-Onlyist, but I'd imagine that there's someone out there who could write a similar article about the KJV or any other favored translation or version. It'd be harder for some, but I'd be surprised if there weren't someone out there that could point out the flaws in any of our favorite versions.

Is there a complete perfect Bible anywhere, in any language that contains God's perfectly pure preserved words?


Don't imagine it, believe it. The devil has many on his side who will discredit the Word of God in every way imaginable. For instance;

The following paragraphs are taken from Isaac H. Hall, ed., The Revised New Testament and History of Revision, giving a literal reprint of the Authorized English Edition of the Revised New Testament, with a brief history of the origin and transmission of the New Testament Scriptures, and of its many versions and revisions that have been made, also a complete history of this last great combined movement of the best scholarship of the world; with reasons for the effort; advantages gained; sketches of the eminent men engaged upon it, etc., etc. prepared under the direction of Professor Isaac H. Hall, LL.B.; Ph. D. Philadelphia: Hubbard Brothers; Atlanta: C.R. Blackall & Co.; New York: A.L. Bancroft & Co., 1881.

Defects of the King James Version

EXCELLENT BUT DEFECTIVE.
After all the words of high praise spoken for this version, it may seem strange to pass to an extended discussion of its defects. And yet it must be confessed that this highly esteemed version is excellent, but defective. The Chairman of the American Company of New Testament Revisers, President Woolsey, D. D., LL.D., thus summarizes these defects: "Our translators of the seventeenth century, in a great many instances, misunderstood the sense. To make this as evident as it may be made we should need to write a volume .... The main deficiency in our translation proceeds from want of exact knowledge of the Hebrew and Greek languages. Not only is the sense wholly misapprehended in a number of instances—as could scarcely fail of being the case—but a perception of the finer rules of grammar and interpretation was wanting. In the use of the article, of the tenses and modes of verbs, and of participles, and in a great variety of other instances, the modern scholar by his revisions can repair and beautify the building reared by the older scholars. Thus, while no book can be written more fitted in style and expression to do its work, more truly English, more harmonious, more simply majestic, than our Authorized Version; new revisers of the text and the version may hope by their salutary changes—to contribute to its preservation, in essentially the same form which it has always had, for generations yet to come."

Read more here;
http://www.bible-researcher.com/kjvdefects.html

DEFECTS ILLUSTRATED.



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Re: NIV 2011 update and Mark 16:9-20

Postby branham1965 » Tue May 16, 2017 5:48 am

I should not have gotten on the largest Pentecostal Denomination in the world about using the NIV.

Sighs. :morning: :morning: :morning:



branham1965 wrote:REVEREND DAKE says on audio tape that when he received the Supernatural Ability to quote the Scriptures , it was ALWAYS in the "old fashioned King James Version".

He said that if modern versions would take over our Churches in place of the "old fashioned King James Version" that would be bad.

They have taken over the Churches everywhere .The largest Pentecostal Denomination in the world uses the NIV.



Ironman wrote:
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:I've never met and NIV2011-Onlyist, but I'd imagine that there's someone out there who could write a similar article about the KJV or any other favored translation or version. It'd be harder for some, but I'd be surprised if there weren't someone out there that could point out the flaws in any of our favorite versions.

Is there a complete perfect Bible anywhere, in any language that contains God's perfectly pure preserved words?


Don't imagine it, believe it. The devil has many on his side who will discredit the Word of God in every way imaginable. For instance;

The following paragraphs are taken from Isaac H. Hall, ed., The Revised New Testament and History of Revision, giving a literal reprint of the Authorized English Edition of the Revised New Testament, with a brief history of the origin and transmission of the New Testament Scriptures, and of its many versions and revisions that have been made, also a complete history of this last great combined movement of the best scholarship of the world; with reasons for the effort; advantages gained; sketches of the eminent men engaged upon it, etc., etc. prepared under the direction of Professor Isaac H. Hall, LL.B.; Ph. D. Philadelphia: Hubbard Brothers; Atlanta: C.R. Blackall & Co.; New York: A.L. Bancroft & Co., 1881.

Defects of the King James Version

EXCELLENT BUT DEFECTIVE.
After all the words of high praise spoken for this version, it may seem strange to pass to an extended discussion of its defects. And yet it must be confessed that this highly esteemed version is excellent, but defective. The Chairman of the American Company of New Testament Revisers, President Woolsey, D. D., LL.D., thus summarizes these defects: "Our translators of the seventeenth century, in a great many instances, misunderstood the sense. To make this as evident as it may be made we should need to write a volume .... The main deficiency in our translation proceeds from want of exact knowledge of the Hebrew and Greek languages. Not only is the sense wholly misapprehended in a number of instances—as could scarcely fail of being the case—but a perception of the finer rules of grammar and interpretation was wanting. In the use of the article, of the tenses and modes of verbs, and of participles, and in a great variety of other instances, the modern scholar by his revisions can repair and beautify the building reared by the older scholars. Thus, while no book can be written more fitted in style and expression to do its work, more truly English, more harmonious, more simply majestic, than our Authorized Version; new revisers of the text and the version may hope by their salutary changes—to contribute to its preservation, in essentially the same form which it has always had, for generations yet to come."

Read more here;
http://www.bible-researcher.com/kjvdefects.html

DEFECTS ILLUSTRATED.



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Re: NIV 2011 update and Mark 16:9-20

Postby Spiritblade Disciple » Tue May 16, 2017 8:29 pm

Perhaps, it seemed good to their leadership and to the Spirit (Acts 15:28) to embrace the NIV?



branham1965 wrote:I should not have gotten on the largest Pentecostal Denomination in the world about using the NIV.

Sighs. :morning: :morning: :morning:



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Re: NIV 2011 update and Mark 16:9-20

Postby Spiritblade Disciple » Tue May 16, 2017 8:32 pm

Ironman wrote:
Spiritblade Disciple wrote:I've never met and NIV2011-Onlyist, but I'd imagine that there's someone out there who could write a similar article about the KJV or any other favored translation or version. It'd be harder for some, but I'd be surprised if there weren't someone out there that could point out the flaws in any of our favorite versions.

Is there a complete perfect Bible anywhere, in any language that contains God's perfectly pure preserved words?


Don't imagine it, believe it. The devil has many on his side who will discredit the Word of God in every way imaginable. For instance;

The following paragraphs are taken from Isaac H. Hall, ed., The Revised New Testament and History of Revision, giving a literal reprint of the Authorized English Edition of the Revised New Testament, with a brief history of the origin and transmission of the New Testament Scriptures, and of its many versions and revisions that have been made, also a complete history of this last great combined movement of the best scholarship of the world; with reasons for the effort; advantages gained; sketches of the eminent men engaged upon it, etc., etc. prepared under the direction of Professor Isaac H. Hall, LL.B.; Ph. D. Philadelphia: Hubbard Brothers; Atlanta: C.R. Blackall & Co.; New York: A.L. Bancroft & Co., 1881.

Defects of the King James Version

EXCELLENT BUT DEFECTIVE.
After all the words of high praise spoken for this version, it may seem strange to pass to an extended discussion of its defects. And yet it must be confessed that this highly esteemed version is excellent, but defective. The Chairman of the American Company of New Testament Revisers, President Woolsey, D. D., LL.D., thus summarizes these defects: "Our translators of the seventeenth century, in a great many instances, misunderstood the sense. To make this as evident as it may be made we should need to write a volume .... The main deficiency in our translation proceeds from want of exact knowledge of the Hebrew and Greek languages. Not only is the sense wholly misapprehended in a number of instances—as could scarcely fail of being the case—but a perception of the finer rules of grammar and interpretation was wanting. In the use of the article, of the tenses and modes of verbs, and of participles, and in a great variety of other instances, the modern scholar by his revisions can repair and beautify the building reared by the older scholars. Thus, while no book can be written more fitted in style and expression to do its work, more truly English, more harmonious, more simply majestic, than our Authorized Version; new revisers of the text and the version may hope by their salutary changes—to contribute to its preservation, in essentially the same form which it has always had, for generations yet to come."

Read more here;
http://www.bible-researcher.com/kjvdefects.html

DEFECTS ILLUSTRATED.

Yep. Not surprised that such articles exists.

Is there a complete perfect Bible anywhere, in any language that contains God's perfectly pure preserved words?



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Re: NIV 2011 update and Mark 16:9-20

Postby Ironman » Tue May 16, 2017 8:59 pm

"Is there a complete perfect Bible anywhere, in any language that contains God's perfectly pure preserved words?"
.

The Bible says that it is INSPIRED by God.

All scripture is given by INSPIRATION OF GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:  That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
2 Timothy 3:16-17.

The Bible says that it comes from the Holy Spirit, NOT from man.

Knowing this first, that NO prophecy of the scripture is of any PRIVATE INTERPRETATION.  For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the HOLY GHOST.
2 Peter 1:20-21.

The PERFECT Bible has been preserved in history?  The King James Bible is the inerrant word of God. The New Testament is based on the best Greek manuscript, Textus Receptus.  Unlike other Bibles, there has never been a revision. 
King James assembled 54 of the greatest scholars of all time.  They were fluent in Greek, Hebrew and Latin.  Not only that, but they loved God and were true believers.  They were sensitive to the direction of the Holy Spirit when translating.  The King James Bible is almost universally acknowledged as the greatest of all English masterpieces. There are two methods of Bible translation.  The formal and the dynamic equivalence method.  The formal method translates the exact words of the manuscript.  The dynamic method paraphrases.  The King James Bible uses the formal method.  The formal method gives you the EXACT words of God.  The dynamic method gives you the opinions of men. It has been time-tested for nearly 400 years.  If you accept what it says and obey it, it works! It was written at a time when the English language was spoken and used in its most perfect form.


Have I become your enemy, because I tell you the truth.

I'll be a fool for truth's sake. Truth is fallen in the street. I wont pass it by. I'll pick it up and embrace it regardless of the costs.


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