Hi Ed,Justaned wrote:Nope!bibleman wrote:Hi Ed,Justaned wrote:Wait one minute nobody here is excusing sin especially not me. All sin carries consequences and those are realized whether we are forgiven or not.macca wrote:You remind me of how the Catholic church taught me Ed, it does not matter what you do as far as sin goes, as long as you stay in the church you will be fine.
So we all sinned like hell and bragged about it. no worries they will anoint me after i die and heaven here i come. yaahoo
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I'm saying a true Christian never commits intellentional malicious sin and that when they do commit unintentional and sins of omission their sin does not cost them their salvation.
Now where is all of that do I even remotely suggest we should all sin like hell and brag about it.
Let me also say the fact you said this about Catholicism proves without a shadow of a doubt you never understood Catholicism. Nothing in Caholic religion remotely suggests that an adherent should sin like hell and brag about it.
Above you said: "I'm saying a true Christian never commits intellentional malicious sin and that when they do commit unintentional and sins of omission their sin does not cost them their salvation."
Well that being the case... once a person truly gets saved then they can never be lost and die and go to Hell... right?
I never said that. I said and I misspelled the word intentional I said no true Christian will commit a malicious intentional sin. In other words I don't see a Christian of ever committing first degree murder, child abuse, spouse abuse and such.
Does that mean a Christain can't sin? No they can and we all do and if we are honest probably daily. However those sins are unintentional, and sins of omission.
But I also believe a Christian can allow his faith to become cold, to withdraw from his relationship with Christ, to reject the wooing of the Holy Spirit that would draw him back into close fellowship. As the process takes place sin will become more frequent in his life and his excuses of it will become more complex. Eventually he will reach a point that the sin will no longer bother him and his heart will be hardened to the Holy Spirit.
It is at that point his salvation is in danger and could be lost completely but if it should be I don't think there is a road back either.
Above you said; "It is at that point his salvation is in danger and could be lost completely but if it should be I don't think there is a road back either."
Well how do you explain that there is no road back?
Does the BLOOD of Jesus loose it's power to cleans sin?
Does the CROSS of Christ have no more value?
Does the NAME of Jesus loose it's power?
Does Matthew ONLY apply to us and NOT to God?
Matthew 18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.