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A Resurrection

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Do the verses below Speak of A Spiritual Resurrection ?

John 5:25
25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

Ephesians 2:1-6
1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

Ephesians 5:13-14
13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

Romans 6:11
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Colossians 2:12-13
12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Colossians 3:1
3 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.



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Re: A Resurrection

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dolph wrote:Ray, at this time we have risen with Him and are seated in Heavenly places, it's figurative language. (If you are born again and have a brand new Spirit. Our bodies will be resurrected at the rapture/resurrection.
Brother Dolph,
Many proclaim to be Born Again, which to me is correct and Scriptural of those Born of The Spirit.Surly we have been born of the flesh (the 1st birth) A Some Born of The Spirit (a 2nd Birth).
And though many Claim to have partaken of the "having being Risen with HIM
and are seated in Heavenly Places" which is a Spiritual Resurrection. Yet Deny having part in the First Resurrection. If you are Resurrected With HIM have you not had a Resurrection Expirience ?

Dolph why is this?
Is it Because making such a proclimation would do harm to their taught Doctrine ?



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It's obvious the first resurrection referred to in Rev 20 is a physcal resurrection of dead people, since it says "the rest of the dead" lived again after the 1000 years. No one denies that one is a physical resurrection



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John 5:25; could be speaking of both the born-again and the resurrection from out of the dead

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fatherfisher wrote:It's obvious the first resurrection referred to in Rev 20 is a physcal resurrection of dead people, since it says "the rest of the dead" lived again after the 1000 years. No one denies that one is a physical resurrection
Brother Fisher,

Revelation 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Rev 20:6 above states "he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power" (as death and hell are cast into the lake of fire, which is the second death Rev 20:14) shall be priests of God and of Christ,
and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Rev 1:5-6 Below states about JESUS CHRIST "Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father;

Revelation 1:5-6
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.


Rev 20:6 Those who have part in the First Resurrection "shall be priests of God and of Christ and shall reign with him a thousand years." And Rev 1:5-6 JESUS Who "Loved us and washed us from our sins in his own blood,And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father;

WE Who JESUS "hath" (past tence) made us kings and priests unto God and his Father, Are we not those who have partaken in this first Resurrection ???

Could we have been made (past tence) as in Rev 1:6 Kings by HIM and not be Reigning with HIM as Rev 20:6 ???



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Ray wrote:
fatherfisher wrote:It's obvious the first resurrection referred to in Rev 20 is a physcal resurrection of dead people, since it says "the rest of the dead" lived again after the 1000 years. No one denies that one is a physical resurrection
Brother Fisher,

Revelation 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Rev 20:6 above states "he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power" (as death and hell are cast into the lake of fire, which is the second death Rev 20:14) shall be priests of God and of Christ,
and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Rev 1:5-6 Below states about JESUS CHRIST "Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father;

Revelation 1:5-6
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.


Rev 20:6 Those who have part in the First Resurrection "shall be priests of God and of Christ and shall reign with him a thousand years." And Rev 1:5-6 JESUS Who "Loved us and washed us from our sins in his own blood,And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father;

WE Who JESUS "hath" (past tence) made us kings and priests unto God and his Father, Are we not those who have partaken in this first Resurrection ???

Could we have been made (past tence) as in Rev 1:6 Kings by HIM and not be Reigning with HIM as Rev 20:6 ???
Yes, because they are talking about 2 different things - apples and oranges. You forgot to include Rev. 5.10 "And have made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth". At the present time neither we nor Jesus reign on earth; we are seated with him in the heavenlies, but not here. His promise of a future reign together with him on earth remains to be fulfilled, and it is that reign which is referred to in Rev. 20.6.



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